Monday, August 14, 2006

'Observing' the Conflict

On Friday, i took part in a conversation involving a Jewish girl and two Lebanese living in London about the current situation in the region for the Observer newspaper; Below is part of our dialogue that lasted 90 mins and left me exhausted and with a massive headache.


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Calev Ben-Dor: What you seem to be suggesting that Israel should have done is nothing.

Karma El-Fadl: Not nothing - nothing violent. But not nothing. If land is no longer occupied, if they go back and enforce the 1949 peace agreement, and Israel leaves what is has taken, then Hizbollah's presence is no longer justified.

Francesca Segal: But if you can see it from Israel's perspective, that they feel behind Hizbollah the looming presence of Iran pointing potentially nuclear weapons at a state they intend to destroy.

Fayez Khouri: Why are you guys being so paranoid?

Calev Ben-Dor: If you had our history, you'd also be paranoid.

Karma El-Fadl: I think your history is part of our history.

Calev Ben-Dor: I just don't want a terrorist organisation on my doorstep pointing 10,000 rockets at me, that's all.

Fayez Khouri: We don't agree with Hizbollah, that's my point. But this is not the way to get rid of them...

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7 comments:

channahboo said...

Calev I am so impressed! When you running for Prime Minister?

You have done us proud!!

Anonymous said...

Francesca Segal: But Hizbollah has a manifesto to 'destroy the Zionist entity' in the Middle East.

Fayez Khouri: So shut them up, don't make more of them!

Calev Ben-Dor: What you seem to be suggesting that Israel should have done is nothing.

Karma El-Fadl: Not nothing - nothing violent. But not nothing. If land is no longer occupied, if they go back and enforce the 1949 peace agreement, and Israel leaves what is has taken, then Hizbollah's presence is no longer justified.


Gee Karma, what an enlightened response, I'm sure that Hezbollah would disband if that happened. Next she'll be suggesting relying on the UN, oh wait a minute....

Anonymous said...

Hi Calev,

I read that on Sunday and was very impressed. You all seemed to be trying to go beyond the cliches and be constructive, unlike most of the British commentary I've seen on the subject (especially on 'Comment is Free'.

Shakoyach

Yellow Boy

Anonymous said...

oh and one minor problem - the Jewish/Israeli voice is a representative of Israel's population but the Lebanese are not. What percentage of Lebanese multitudes has their backgrounds?

Israel is a terrorist country? The Lebanese refugees are in fact coming back to their villages when the IDF is still controling the area! However, they are coming back because they know that we will do whatever we can in order to avoid civilian casualties. That claim is just a joke. Enough said.


Michael Sprung

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David said...

Ol' Roomate,

I haven't read the Guardian for the past few months for fear of what they'll say about our Matzav. Much respect for being articulate to a personal and national viewpoint cogently in a newspaper of such importance. These are things I feel too-doubtless many others do, but simply can't articulate them in a dialogue. Really quite impressive and pleasing.

Any chance you can share other excerpts from your conversation that didn't make the Observer?

Anonymous said...

I believe the majority of Lebanese people are not hateful.
But I also believe they should take responsibility for letting themselves be misrepresented....

Dear G-d I wish we can all learn to love one-another and become friends.

Subkuch Malayga
(Everything is possible)